Randy
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« Reply #675 on: August 15, 2008, 07:31:17 PM » |
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I just occurred to me that Nicky Katt is indeed in INSOMNIA. Maybe that got him the gig as "extraneous cliche spouting character to ride shotgun with anonymous-cop-whoiscertainlygordon" during the Dent chase.
INSOMNIA is crap. I remember barely anything about it. Doesn't Pacino chase Robin Williams on top of logs at one point? Yeah. I think so.
I still think there's a possibility of re-casting the Joker if they went that route. I've heard people online cater to Joseph Gordon Leavitt (he does look like Ledger, I'll give him that), but it's possible GI JOE might preemptively end his career.
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Wolfe
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« Reply #676 on: August 15, 2008, 07:59:01 PM » |
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Oh, I get it. I just wanted you to know that, even in our opposition, we have something in common. I do find that reassuring. And here I thought that my liking of Scarecrow's "diagnosis" line would forever be the end of us. What we have is greater than iffy one-liners. B. Wolfe |
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Wolfe
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« Reply #677 on: August 15, 2008, 08:01:34 PM » |
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General question for DARK KNIGHT viewers/ANGEL fans: Which scene did Holtz appear in? I keep hearing he's in it, but I saw the thing twice and didn't notice him. Is it a blink-and-miss-it walk-on or does he have more than one scene and/or dialogue?
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BrianLynch
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« Reply #678 on: August 15, 2008, 08:03:45 PM » |
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He's in it a bunch, he's the guy that the Joker chides and then overpowers to escape the police station. It's a great scene. I didn't know it was him either.
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Scott Taylor
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« Reply #679 on: August 15, 2008, 09:36:33 PM » |
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Yeah, I didn't know it the first couple times I saw it, but when I was looking at Holtz I could totally tell it was him. He's really good in it, too, and in it A LOT.
The Joker killed seven of his friends so he got sloppy and stuff.
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Wolfe
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« Reply #680 on: August 15, 2008, 10:26:57 PM » |
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He's in it a bunch, he's the guy that the Joker chides and then overpowers to escape the police station. It's a great scene. I didn't know it was him either. Oh my God, that character was Holtz?! I completely didn't recognize him. I was going to wait two more weeks to see it again when it finally opens at the local IMAX, but now I want to see it again right this second. B. Wolfe |
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Amusing Pseudonym
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« Reply #681 on: August 15, 2008, 11:05:07 PM » |
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I intended to post these questions earlier today, but got sidetracked by five hours in the emergency room. (They sent me home, so I guess I'm fine.)
"Five people are dead, two of them cops."
* I only recall Two-Face killing Eric Roberts, Roberts' driver, and Older Male Cop. Who were the other two?
* How did Gordon (and apparently Batman) know all those people were dead AND who killed them? As Commish, does he receive a text message every time a body turns up? Did I nod off and miss a scene in which Dent tells the captive Gordon family how his day went?
Dent's "death"
* If he didn't die at the end and the memorial service was a sham, wouldnt' that mean Gordon and/or Batman would have to keep him locked away on the down low? That might set up a Guantanamo Bay allegory for Begins pt. 3.
* Whether Dent really died or not, what death was the public sold? Did the police retract the story that he survived the hospital explosion? If not, perhaps one of the deaths Batman took the rap for was Dent's own.
Temporary Bat-Cave
* "You know what this otherwise featureless stone wall is missing, Alfred? An old timey cast iron furnace that apparently doesn't vent smoke above ground." "I can't imagine how that would ever prove useful, Master Bruce."
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sean
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« Reply #682 on: August 15, 2008, 11:18:04 PM » |
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"Five people are dead, two of them cops."
* I only recall Two-Face killing Eric Roberts, Roberts' driver, and Older Male Cop. Who were the other two? I was talking sloppy -- I forgot that Ramirez lived which, of course, complicates the lie that they're selling anyway. How did Gordon (and apparently Batman) know all those people were dead AND who killed them? Did you make it that far into the movie before you saw a character behave illogically enough as to be essentially a plothole? |
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« Reply #683 on: August 16, 2008, 09:23:37 AM » |
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"Five people are dead, two of them cops." I was talking sloppy -- I forgot that Ramirez lived which, of course, complicates the lie that they're selling anyway. Oh, I could have sworn I heard Oldman say that actual line. Did you make it that far into the movie before you saw a character behave illogically enough as to be essentially a plothole? Up until that point I had been distracted by the way scenes seemed to be chopped off practically mid- sentence. That, and trying to predict whether or not Batman's eyes would be visible through the mask from one shot to the next. Batman and the Commish's "okay, here's the plan" conversation at the end stuck out for me because it seemed they both suddenly possessed audience-level omniscience about scenes they weren't in. |
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sean
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« Reply #684 on: August 16, 2008, 01:57:01 PM » |
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"Five people are dead, two of them cops." I was talking sloppy -- I forgot that Ramirez lived which, of course, complicates the lie that they're selling anyway. Oh, I could have sworn I heard Oldman say that actual line. *shrug* maybe... I thought you were quoting me back at myself. If you had asked me at the end of the movie, 3 civs and 2 cops sounds like the "right" number, but I couldn't tell ya who they were. |
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Luke Erik
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« Reply #685 on: August 22, 2008, 01:31:23 PM » |
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Finally got a copy of the script. If anyone would like a copy, pm me your email address.
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Donnacha
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I like you.
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« Reply #686 on: August 22, 2008, 06:58:05 PM » |
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« Reply #687 on: August 22, 2008, 08:25:45 PM » |
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Dent lies at the bottom of the hole, his neck broken.
DEAD.
Gordon and Batman stare down at Dent's body. Grave.
GORDON (CONT'D)
The Joker won.
Gordon stares down at SCARRED SIDE of Harvey Dent.
GORDON (CONT'D)
Harvey's prosecution, everything he fought for, everything Rachel died for. Undone. Whatever chance Gotham had of fixing itself... whatever chance you gave us of fixing our city... dies with Harvey's reputation. We bet it all on him. The Joker took the best of us and tore him down. People will lose all hope.
BATMAN
No. They won't.
(looks at Gordon)
They can never know what he did.
GORDON
(incredulous)
Five dead? Two of them cops?
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Yep. Nolan's math was off, not ours.
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« Reply #688 on: August 25, 2008, 10:30:58 AM » |
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Luke Erik
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« Reply #689 on: August 25, 2008, 12:15:08 PM » |
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I put stock into that as much as I do having the third movie being called, "The Caped Crusade".
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