BrianLynch
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« Reply #30 on: February 01, 2012, 12:49:00 PM » |
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At the time, people thought the ending to THE ABYSS was the weakest part. Not sure what Ridley Scott movie did it. Was it GLADIATOR?
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JCEFalconi
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« Reply #31 on: February 01, 2012, 01:01:36 PM » |
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Actually GI JANE.
The facehuggers are a bit like squids no? Also the Space Jockey at the beginning and what he's doing now with Prometheus. I don't really have a problem with changing the ending really. It's mostly the tone.
Obviously the alien in the book would look a bit silly, considering from what I've read, that the book is meant to be very comic-booky. It's meant to exploit the medium as much as possible and not try to be something else. I think, in the book, you're supposed to be weirded out by Ozymandias outrageous pink and gold outfits, wonder if he's some sort of pervert or psycopath or an actual superhero. A lot of stuff and subtext was just thrown out, which I guess is understandable but dissapointing.
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Randy
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You had me at meat tornado.
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« Reply #32 on: February 01, 2012, 01:56:15 PM » |
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I liked the movie, but can't even compare it to the book. And I guess it would've been impossible to at least be faithful to the rythmn of the original, you'd have to have 70's Francis Ford Coppola direct it or something, allow quiet moments to happen, let people look actually drab and depressing not movie-disheveled, have more sadness in it. Maybe in 10 years when it's due it's re-remake.
Judging from how Snyder's version performed something tells me WB isn't clamoring for another WATCHMEN movie. And if they do, it probably wouldn't even attempt to be as faithful (and definitely not R rated). |
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Dobbin
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« Reply #34 on: February 01, 2012, 02:35:57 PM » |
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In context, in the book, the "giant alien squid" you're talking about was a project designed by the best artists and creative minds in the world, and was meant to evoke the sense of Lovecraftian, essentially non-human dread of "the other" in a way that would make people's differences seem meaningless. It was meant to draw on the body-horror ideas that people dread and fear on an instinctual level. If Gibboins couldn't realize such an image as it was written, I don't fault him much. Given the rest that the book accomplished, I was always able to say, "OK, that's a placeholder for what the text is calling for."
It was in a pre-9/11 world that imagined such an event would bring people together and KEEP them together, but that's another discussion.
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Dobbin
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« Reply #35 on: February 01, 2012, 02:45:54 PM » |
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I love Alan Moore like a freaky old insane uncle who worships roman snake gods, but this is really not fair.
"“I tend to take this latest development as a kind of eager confirmation that they are still apparently dependent on ideas that I had 25 years ago.” " - Alan Moore
No more than he was dependent on ideas for characters that Charlton Comics had 25 years before he wrote WATCHMEN. Comics are all about reinvention and retelling of the same characters.
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« Reply #36 on: February 01, 2012, 02:50:19 PM » |
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Judging from how Snyder's version performed something tells me WB isn't clamoring for another WATCHMEN movie. And if they do, it probably wouldn't even attempt to be as faithful (and definitely not R rated).
Like I said before, I hope someone decides to adapt the Rorschach book into WATCHMEN ORIGINS: RORSCHACH, just because Haley was so great in the movie. Even people who hated the movie would want to go see that. Also, they couldn't come up with a better title than BEFORE WATCHMEN? If anything, that should be the title to the next BEFORE SUNRISE movie. Jesse and Celine run into each other in March 2009 and spend the afternoon walking around LA before he has to leave to go to the premiere of WATCHMEN (he's a big fan and didn't get a +1). |
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DerickA
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« Reply #37 on: February 01, 2012, 03:01:53 PM » |
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"“I tend to take this latest development as a kind of eager confirmation that they are still apparently dependent on ideas that I had 25 years ago.” " - Alan Moore
No more than he was dependent on ideas for characters that Charlton Comics had 25 years before he wrote WATCHMEN. Comics are all about reinvention and retelling of the same characters.
You're turning on brilliance in favor of fanny packs and ball caps. Do we really want to start turning on Alan Moore? The WATCHMEN movie diluted the comic's perfect reputation. It skewed he public's image on what WATCHMEN is, caused this conversation to happen and perpetuated a horrible director's career. That said, SUCKER PUNCH was a fair punishment for WATCHMEN movie fans. |
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« Reply #38 on: February 01, 2012, 03:13:35 PM » |
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Like I said before, I hope someone decides to adapt the Rorschach book into WATCHMEN ORIGINS: RORSCHACH, just because Haley was so great in the movie. Even people who hated the movie would want to go see that.
Actually, if there's any one thing that I feel like works much, much better in the book than the movie, it's Rorschach's dialogue/voiceover. It reads wonderfully, but as lines of dialogue spoken out loud, the subject-less sentences are awkward as hell. |
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Wolfe
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« Reply #39 on: February 01, 2012, 03:17:13 PM » |
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You're turning on brilliance in favor of fanny packs and ball caps.
This from the guy who wants a guaranteed-terrible GHOSTBUSTERS 3 to be made at all costs so he can get a Slimer Slurpee cup. |
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« Reply #40 on: February 01, 2012, 03:19:48 PM » |
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You act like there wasn't that stuff from the jump. Ghostbusters wasn't made to be found in some dusty back issue bin. It was made to please crowds.
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« Reply #41 on: February 01, 2012, 03:30:20 PM » |
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People need to stop acting like WATCHMEN is the Torah. It's a comic book property. There's no reason in the world why they shouldn't do other things with it.
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« Reply #42 on: February 01, 2012, 03:40:05 PM » |
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That said, SUCKER PUNCH was a fair punishment for WATCHMEN movie fans.
Wait, I have to like ALL of Snyder's movies now? Shit. I didn't understand that liking one movie extended to liking everything that director ever did. Okay, I'm off to watch SUCKER PUNCH...after which I will have to be strapped to a chair for a Michael Bay marathon... FYI the Asian chick in SUCKER PUNCH is totally from the Real World/RR Challenge. This was basically my entire point for making this post. |
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« Reply #43 on: February 01, 2012, 03:40:40 PM » |
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I get why people are mad though. It's not a comic book, it's a graphic novel. It would be like spinning off To Kill a Mockingbird into a Law & Order-style prequel. Those characters belong to Harper Lee, the same should go for these creations. There are plenty of fish in the DC universe sea to tell interesting stories with, why go back to a well where the majority of your audience doesn't approve?
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BrianLynch
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« Reply #44 on: February 01, 2012, 05:57:16 PM » |
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I get why people are mad though. It's not a comic book, it's a graphic novel. It would be like spinning off To Kill a Mockingbird into a Law & Order-style prequel. Those characters belong to Harper Lee, the same should go for these creations. There are plenty of fish in the DC universe sea to tell interesting stories with, why go back to a well where the majority of your audience doesn't approve?
Because most people will read it. And WATCHMEN is absolutely a comic book. |
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