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« Reply #390 on: May 19, 2012, 05:39:18 PM » |
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The proof is also in the sort of pudding that any given 4 minutes of 30 ROCK is better than any 4 minutes within any hour of SNL. Fey is a better head writer without the Lorne-SNL-machine and death-combat it brings with it.
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« Reply #391 on: May 19, 2012, 05:44:20 PM » |
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But Lorne is a big part of 30 ROCK. Also, you can't really compare sitcom writing with SNL, for lots of reasons. You have a lot more time to finesse 30 ROCK scripts, live television is insanely difficult, sketch comedy is different than what 30 ROCK has to do, SNL has more content per week.
That said, Lorne's mindgames sound strange. And he was kind of a douche to me when I met him.
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« Reply #392 on: May 19, 2012, 06:15:00 PM » |
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But Lorne is a big part of 30 ROCK. Also, you can't really compare sitcom writing with SNL, for lots of reasons. You have a lot more time to finesse 30 ROCK scripts, live television is insanely difficult, sketch comedy is different than what 30 ROCK has to do, SNL has more content per week.
That said, Lorne's mindgames sound strange. And he was kind of a douche to me when I met him.
Jane Curtin won't have anything to do with him now. Which is too bad because it would have been cool to have her as Tina Fey's mom (along with Buck Henry as the Dad) on 30 ROCK.
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« Reply #393 on: May 19, 2012, 06:32:02 PM » |
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That would have been awesome.
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« Reply #394 on: May 20, 2012, 08:49:38 AM » |
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The Wiig send-off at the end was very sweet.
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« Reply #395 on: May 20, 2012, 10:21:27 AM » |
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Yeah that was something. For years when someone would leave no mention would be made of it. They'd just be gone. That kind of changed in the 2000s. I think this was the first time Lorne was ever part of it.
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« Reply #396 on: May 20, 2012, 02:15:14 PM » |
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The first time I remember them acknowledging it was Jimmy Fallon's sendoff, no? Where he and Tina did Grease?
Whenever Chris Kattan pops up randomly (didn't it happen another time recently?), it reminds me that he's up to nothing now. Where did he go?
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« Reply #397 on: May 20, 2012, 02:34:11 PM » |
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They did it for Will Ferrell I think. He was in every sketch on his last episode.
Going back way earlier I remember Dennis Miller saying goodbye on his last Weekend Update, but it wasn't mentioned beyond that.
When Eddie Murphy left they tried to trick the audience into thinking he was still there for a few months. They'd taped several sketches with him and showed around one per episode. And they had a black guy who looked somewhat like him in sketches where he had no lines.
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« Reply #398 on: May 20, 2012, 02:50:23 PM » |
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I remember Phil Hartman's farewell, during the "So Long, Farewell" sing-along with the recurring characters. At the time, I didn't know he was leaving the show, so the whole thing seemed a little odd to me. It's kinda heartbreaking watching it now, with him singing "Goodbye" while hugging Chris Farley.
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« Reply #399 on: May 20, 2012, 02:52:00 PM » |
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I remember Phil Hartman's farewell, during the "So Long, Farewell" sing-along with the recurring characters. At the time, I didn't know he was leaving the show, so the whole thing seemed a little odd to me. It's kinda heartbreaking watching it now, with him singing "Goodbye" while hugging Chris Farley.
You're right. Forgot about that. That may be the first time they did something like that.
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« Reply #400 on: May 20, 2012, 03:12:05 PM » |
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The first time I remember them acknowledging it was Jimmy Fallon's sendoff, no? Where he and Tina did Grease?
Was that the sketch where Darrell Hammond stood in the back drinking from a coffee mug the whole time?
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« Reply #401 on: May 20, 2012, 03:25:39 PM » |
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They did it for Will Ferrell I think. He was in every sketch on his last episode.
Yeah that was pretty good, everyone was saying generically kind things like it was just a regular goodbye thing and then Tracy Morgan complained about him owing him money or something. It was a great sendoff.
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« Reply #402 on: May 20, 2012, 03:30:24 PM » |
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I remember Phil Hartman's farewell, during the "So Long, Farewell" sing-along with the recurring characters. At the time, I didn't know he was leaving the show, so the whole thing seemed a little odd to me. It's kinda heartbreaking watching it now, with him singing "Goodbye" while hugging Chris Farley.
Netflix Instant cut that from its version of the episode. No "musical numbers" on streaming episodes. I was really mad.
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« Reply #403 on: May 20, 2012, 03:53:32 PM » |
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I was thinking that the best parts of this episode would never make it on-line.
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« Reply #404 on: May 20, 2012, 03:59:31 PM » |
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Netflix Instant cut that from its version of the episode. No "musical numbers" on streaming episodes. I was really mad.
I wish the studios and ASCAP or whoever could just work something out. This music thing ruins so much stuff. I've seen early 90's Real World episodes with generic music put in. What's the point of THAT?
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