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« Reply #210 on: May 25, 2012, 06:41:55 PM » |
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So I guess this means there will be no Niatpac Levram in the new 52.
Why even go on? |
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« Reply #211 on: May 25, 2012, 06:44:04 PM » |
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Isn't that a term? Like your tentpole characters, the ones that prop up the whole thing? Flagship, maybe I mean?
There was, all over the rulebook and the cover and the box, images of Captain America, Spider Man, Hulk, and the lady with the afro and the 70s Sonny-and-Cher costume.
No, I was kidding. Just because she's on the box so it's not a bunch of white guys (I'm guessing punk rock Storm or 70s Luke Cage weren't exactly sending the right message out) doesn't mean she's being established as a tentpole character. That said, she was used a lot at that point, so. Also, pretty sure it was The Thing on the cover, and not The Hulk. |
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Dobbin
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« Reply #212 on: May 25, 2012, 06:45:04 PM » |
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http://www.amazon.com/Marvel-Role-Playing-Includes-Octopus-adventure/dp/B0059JZ73C/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1337992932&sr=8-4That's the box: Cap, Spidey, the Thing(Rock!), and "Captain Marvel with the weird wave/light powers that nobody knows." But the rulebooks were also illustrated and she was all over them, as well as the real flagship characters. It was strange. Her and Man-Thing. They were referenced far more than their popularity would call for. Man-Thing mostly, I think, to illustrate the low end of the power ranges for intelligence/wisdom attributes. FEEBLE was the designation. Like, an Aunt May character sheet would have a FEEBLE strength rating, and a Man-Thing would have a FEEBLE intelligence. So he's only as smart as she is strong. That's sad for him.
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« Reply #213 on: May 25, 2012, 06:47:17 PM » |
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Surely it's no worse than calling Batman 'The Dark Knight'?
It's more like if Batman's mentor was known as The Dark Knight, and he invoked the name of his mentor as a rallying cry, and the only Batman book was "Legends of the Dark Knight" but he was still called Batman within its pages...and they changed his official name to The Dark Knight anyway. To me, it just seems like retconning something kinda weird and confusing by replacing it with something still kinda weird and confusing. Which I guess is pretty standard for DC so whatever. |
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BrianLynch
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« Reply #214 on: May 25, 2012, 06:49:01 PM » |
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http://www.amazon.com/Marvel-Role-Playing-Includes-Octopus-adventure/dp/B0059JZ73C/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1337992932&sr=8-4That's the box: Cap, Spidey, the Thing(Rock!), and "Captain Marvel with the weird wave/light powers that nobody knows." But the rulebooks were also illustrated and she was all over them, as well as the real flagship characters. It was strange. Her and Man-Thing. They were referenced far more than their popularity would call for. Man-Thing mostly, I think, to illustrate the low end of the power ranges for intelligence/wisdom attributes. FEEBLE was the designation. Like, an Aunt May character sheet would have a FEEBLE strength rating, and a Man-Thing would have a FEEBLE intelligence. So he's only as smart as she is strong. That's sad for him. But you get why they'd want to have a black character in there too, no? Like how they made Green Lantern the John Stewart JL in JUSTICE LEAGUE. |
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Dobbin
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« Reply #215 on: May 25, 2012, 06:54:21 PM » |
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But you get why they'd want to have a black character in there too, no? Like how they made Green Lantern the John Stewart JL in JUSTICE LEAGUE.
This is true. If it came out in 1977, they'd have probably gone with Falcon. Who, keeping this on-topic, people used to think iwas "Black Falcon," which they probably should not change his name to based on the error. I'll tell you what the change reminds me of: the term "begs the question." Like, it doesn't mean what most people think it means, which is "forcing you to consider this NEXT question," but rather it means making an assumption about the end of the argument to have the argument. i.e. proving God's existence by citing the bible which says so, and is divinely inspired, so it must be correct. But it has been used incorrectly SO much that the new meaning is now the sort of accepted meaning. |
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« Reply #216 on: May 25, 2012, 06:57:49 PM » |
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Unrelated, but they've made Falcon really cool lately in Marvel stuff.
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« Reply #217 on: May 25, 2012, 07:06:10 PM » |
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Also unrelated, I still have my super-rare Falcon SECRET WARS figure. It was there on the shelf at Aames in 6th grade, right behind a bunch of Kangs. It is, hands down, the best of the SECRET WARS figures they made.
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« Reply #218 on: May 25, 2012, 07:08:18 PM » |
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I have that too. The Spidey one is pretty perfect, as is the Iron Man one. Doc Ock was terrible, his arms ripped off so easily.
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« Reply #219 on: May 25, 2012, 07:11:14 PM » |
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My Spidey very quickly lost his black web-marks on his chest and back from thumb-grease. Same with the Captain America; the red stripes just disappeared. Those were the best figures for trying to learn how to draw stuff.
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« Reply #220 on: May 25, 2012, 07:18:07 PM » |
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Daredevil, who came later, was great. Black suit Spidey too.
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« Reply #221 on: May 25, 2012, 07:21:53 PM » |
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« Reply #222 on: May 25, 2012, 10:22:08 PM » |
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I love stuff like this; this is what makes me love the internet. I also like finding out that certain decisions were made under weird constraints, and that it was working within those constraints that produced the odd, cool things that made them unique.
I actually didn't like the Daredevil, but only because it kind of illustrated that his costume is really boring when put into 3 dimensions; he's just a guy in an all red suit; and again, the logo rubbed off super quick. The black suit Spider Man was somehow more bendy in the legs than the regular one; like the black plastic was made from different stuff. I had the whole Doom kit and kaboodle: The Tower of Doom, the Doom Roller(!!) the Doom Cycle AND the Doom Copter. The copter suffered from looking too much like an actual helicopter; it was oddly depressing for a toy. The only good-guy vehicle I had was the Freedom Cycle. It was a very villainous Christmas/Channukah season that year.
I totally loved the Kenner Super Powers figures, but the difference between the two sets was very much the difference between DC comics and Marvel comics; the DC stuff was bright colors and sort of stylized; the Marvel stuff was more "realistic" in body construction and had more of a "real" feel to it. That was a really good time to be a kid who was into comic books and toys.
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« Reply #223 on: May 26, 2012, 01:00:05 PM » |
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The thing about flanker brands just opened my eyes on so many toys from my youth... |
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« Reply #224 on: May 26, 2012, 01:47:28 PM » |
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That Daredevil figure is awesome, I would have loved to have that as a kid.
I had some really early Batman toys from the TV series that I loved. I had Batman, Robin, The Joker and the Batmobile (which was amazing). Also had a bridge playset that broke apart - there was a little compressed air device attached to a dynamite plunger and you pumped it up and when you set it off it blew the shit out of everything.
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