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« Reply #1125 on: April 19, 2012, 07:09:50 AM » |
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Mel's dinner parties sound like a lot of fun. "WHO WANTS TO EAT???"
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« Reply #1126 on: April 19, 2012, 07:15:17 AM » |
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He really does go from zero to 60 pretty quick, doesn't he? I glanced over the transcript and kind of had an idea of how this would probably go, but when I started the tape it was pretty shocking just how hard he's screaming immediately.
Mel Gibson never gets "a little irritated."
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Dobbin
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« Reply #1127 on: April 19, 2012, 07:25:11 AM » |
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Mel is addicted to the rageahol.
At what point does someone not "need help" but is just a maybe a giant asshole?
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Dan
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« Reply #1128 on: April 19, 2012, 07:27:11 AM » |
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At what point does someone not "need help" but is just a maybe a giant asshole?
I guess it's in the eye of the beholder. What I'm wondering is, at what point does this sort of thing go from "We're trying to help you" to "Let's publicly laugh at a crazy person"? |
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Dobbin
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« Reply #1129 on: April 19, 2012, 07:42:16 AM » |
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There are "crazy people," though, who are tortured by their craziness without torturing other people. Also, crazy people who are incapable of NOT being crazy all the time. The guy has enough social awareness to not do this shit in front of cameras and deny it all afterwards, so there's a certain amount of awareness of what's appropriate, and a feeling of entitlement to abuse and lord over people when the cameras and mics are off.
Anybody who would act this way with guests in his home, but not act this way in, say, court, is making a choice about what is more important: his baby-rage, or their comfort. I think there's a sense of entitlement here that we may tend to label as "crazy" that is just as easily explained by someone being genuinely an awful man.
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Dobbin
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« Reply #1130 on: April 19, 2012, 07:44:32 AM » |
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What's amazing to me in all this is the absolute unmanliness about it. Like, he sounds like a contemptible little 9 year old throwing a tantrum. He's Billy Mummy from TWILIGHT ZONE, only with money and stuff instead of mental powers to zap people into the cornfield. But he REALLY wants to buy those powers.
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« Reply #1131 on: April 19, 2012, 07:47:17 AM » |
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Yeah, fair enough, I hope it didn't sound like I was defending Gibson, because I definitely wasn't. I will say, though, that secretly recording someone, then making those recordings public, is all kinds of creepy, no matter how justified it is, to me.
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« Reply #1132 on: April 19, 2012, 07:55:12 AM » |
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Yeah, fair enough, I hope it didn't sound like I was defending Gibson, because I definitely wasn't. I will say, though, that secretly recording someone, then making those recordings public, is all kinds of creepy, no matter how justified it is, to me.
In 1990, maybe. Which is to say that there WAS a time when the recording of someone at a button's press with a small device was something that required a serious investment and pre-planning. But this was from his kid's iPod touch. In a time when EVERYONE carries a mini voice and video recorder that also connects to the internet and plays Angry Birds, recording a blow-up as it happens becomes less "creepy," I think, as it becomes more available. Like, the "creepy" part would be the malice aforethought in getting a recording device in place. Setting up a hidden camera, bringing an expensive James Bond style uni-tasker of tech like a spy-pen or something. But if it is the game-device that you use to do wi-fi Facetime chat with your friends or play CUT THE ROPE with on the toilet, it stops having that kind of "creepy." |
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« Reply #1133 on: April 19, 2012, 09:21:12 AM » |
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I just watched the first LETHAL WEAPON two nights ago, and it's amazing how charming and vulnerable he was. He must be a wonderful actor, suppressing his first instinct to scream like a pre-teen banshee every time his character disagrees with something.
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« Reply #1134 on: April 19, 2012, 09:40:25 AM » |
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At what point does someone not "need help" but is just a maybe a giant asshole?
Shouldn't that be the other way around? |
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« Reply #1135 on: April 19, 2012, 10:04:04 AM » |
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Shouldn't that be the other way around?
At what point is someone just maybe a giant asshole and not "need help?" Is that better? |
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« Reply #1136 on: April 19, 2012, 10:04:54 AM » |
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I just watched the first LETHAL WEAPON two nights ago, and it's amazing how charming and vulnerable he was. He must be a wonderful actor, suppressing his first instinct to scream like a pre-teen banshee every time his character disagrees with something.
I'm shocked I still love him in HAMLET as much as I do. He's friggin' brilliant in it in a way nobody onscreen has ever been. |
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« Reply #1137 on: April 19, 2012, 10:22:42 AM » |
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I don't know what you guys are talking about, he's super psyched about going to eat, he even goes: HOORAY!
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« Reply #1138 on: April 19, 2012, 11:12:01 AM » |
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Shouldn't that be the other way around?
Yes. The guy clearly has a psychiatric issue that goes beyond the average privelidged person tanrum. He should be in a padded room. |
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« Reply #1139 on: April 19, 2012, 11:25:46 AM » |
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He needs help in a big way. But SO many people that work with him love him, I still hold onto the fact that he CAN get help.
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