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« Reply #390 on: April 05, 2012, 06:56:40 PM » |
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No- The Who thing was a parody, I don't see how it really fits.
Did you know The Who did actual Coke commercials? (I don't think they're going with The Who either.) |
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katy
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« Reply #391 on: April 06, 2012, 10:30:06 AM » |
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Everybody should check this out, but ESPECIALLY John Dalton: http://vimeo.com/39678967Lots of really smart analysis going on here. OMG, I haven't watched this episode yet, but I went to college with the guy in that screenshot. Crazy! If he's a regular character now this is going to be really weird. |
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« Reply #392 on: April 06, 2012, 10:37:10 AM » |
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Yeah, it seems he's going to be on it a lot.
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« Reply #393 on: April 06, 2012, 11:10:33 AM » |
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Nice. He's a good actor, especially when playing a jerk (he is not a jerk in real life).
EDIT: I better edit the rest of that since it was a little RIBALD
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« Reply #394 on: April 09, 2012, 04:24:07 AM » |
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Is it just me or has Mad Men this season seemed like a parody of Mad Men. I still enjoy it but everything is on the nose or in a fat suit.
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« Reply #395 on: April 10, 2012, 02:08:40 AM » |
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I agree with ExpendablesFan. The Don thing was just too weird and out of character to be shocking or interesting, and "it was all dream" is pretty unoriginal for Mad Men. I kinda felt like turning it on and watching another episode of SMASH, which is unexpectedly good.
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« Reply #396 on: April 10, 2012, 06:11:38 AM » |
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I loved this episode.
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« Reply #397 on: April 10, 2012, 08:38:21 AM » |
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It was okay. I always keep in mind that Weiner made his bones under David Chase, and there's nothing Chase loved more than a painfully obvious dream sequence. I definitely see where ExpendablesFan is coming from, though, there were lots of "clobber you over the head with the theme" moments in this week's episode.
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« Reply #398 on: April 10, 2012, 08:52:19 AM » |
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I generally don't like seeing directly into Don's head either; I think the show works better when it suggests rather than shows. But I loved the exploration of what misogyny really is-- the imagined thrill of violence and the sort of tawdry, sex-infused way it is spoken about, vs. the actual ugliness of it. That romanticizing an abusive or creepy dynamic and repressing sexuality to the point of forgiving/rationalizing anger and violence for its "passion" may sell things, but it doesn't work out in practice. Specifically tying it back to Joan and addressing the rape, which I honestly thought was never going to be spoken about, was great. That's a long, long pay-off.
Seeing Chris Brown and Rihanna today, with the "he's so hot, I'd let him beat me, too!" fans makes it just as relevant today. Violence against women, substituting it for sex, trading on it for profit or making it lurid and steamy while ostensibly wagging a finger at it is something that is still all over everywhere. Nancy Grace is a millionaire because of it.
And that song at the end; holy shit. I mean, you think it is all "too on the nose," but my god; that was a song on the radio.
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« Reply #399 on: April 10, 2012, 09:00:19 AM » |
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I kinda felt like turning it on and watching another episode of SMASH, which is unexpectedly good.
Good... I thought I was the only one that was watching. |
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« Reply #400 on: April 10, 2012, 09:14:33 AM » |
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I kinda felt like turning it on and watching another episode of SMASH, which is unexpectedly good.
No way. |
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« Reply #402 on: April 10, 2012, 09:43:24 AM » |
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Dobbin, I'm with you on everything you said. My biggest sticking points for this episode were the dream sequence, though mainly I thought "You don't have to worry about me anymore" was a painfully obvious period at the end of that sentence; the scene with Joan and her husband in the bedroom ("If this were world war II...") felt way too overly melodramatic for this show; and the performance of the mother-in-law with Sally is just too over-the-top, though I like how subtly Sally's becoming both a sassy teenager and a child of the late 60's. The Peggy story was fine, I thought, but I feel like the show's turning its wheels with her a little bit; we've been through this "Peggy is very progressive, but...wait, maybe not." moments with her multiple times already.
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« Reply #403 on: April 10, 2012, 09:45:54 AM » |
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Is it just me or has Mad Men this season seemed like a parody of Mad Men.
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« Reply #404 on: April 10, 2012, 09:46:39 AM » |
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Watch the Archive of American Television interview with Weiner. He talks a lot about feminism. I gleaned that, in the end, feminism will have been the major theme of the show, more so than the rise and fall of Don Draper.
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