LOST Season Finale 13 May 2009

[Steve B]

Also, the writers of this show must be huge Neil Stephenson fans.

I was thinking Neil Gaiman

[Hawkboy]

I'm just glad that somebody finally got revenge for Jacob pissing on The Dude's rug.

That rug really tied the room together.

[Wolfe]

I went to sleep last night thinking that the finale was solid. Not up to the previous finales, but then this season hasn't been up to the previous seasons. However, Comcast cut out on me for a minute during the big temple confrontation at the end, so all I saw was Ben's "What about meeeee?" rant. I had assumed, after we saw Locke's body, that he'd become a spiritual manifestation of himself, the way Christian had. I wasn't crazy about that, but I could go with it. However, having now watched the portion I missed last night on the ABC site, Locke being Jacob's rival on the beach wearing Locke's form is an absolute dealbreaker. That one piece of knowledge undermined the entire episode for me. I was cursing Comcast, but now I think they were trying to spare me some pain.

And what's with this show and cramming in new characters/groups? We don't even know who this new group (the "good guys" with Locke's body) are, and now we have Jacob and his enemy in the mix? We don't have enough different factions to keep straight as it is? No way do they wrap all this up satisfactorily in just 16 more episodes.

I did think the bomb going off at the end was cool. I figured it would, but I thought we'd get a taste of what its detonation would mean for the LOSTverse at the end. Usually the direction of the next season is telegraphed a little, but now who the hell knows what they're going to do next year. I also liked that it reminded me of the SLEDGE HAMMER! season finale where Hammer blew up the nuclear warhead.

[Hawkboy]

And what's with this show and cramming in new characters/groups? We don't even know who this new group (the "good guys" with Locke's body) are, and now we have Jacob and his enemy in the mix? We don't have enough different factions to keep straight as it is? No way do they wrap all this up satisfactorily in just 16 more episodes.

I just figured those guys were affiliated with Richard and the Others, sort of like that lady who kept Locke's body in storage back in LA when Ben and Jack were rounding up the crew to come back. I figured the Others just have an LA chapter, and that's them. Illiana knew Jacob, so it seems they're part of the same posse.

[Keith]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sobek

In case anyone wanted to know.

[Amusing Pseudonym]

' Sobek's ambiguous nature led some Egyptians to believe that he was a repairer of evil that had been done, rather than a force for good in itself, for example, going to Duat to restore damage done to the dead as a result of their form of death.  He was also said to call on suitable gods and goddesses required for protecting people in situation, effectively having a more distant role, nudging things along, rather than taking an active part. '


Seems fitting.

[Keith]

Someone came up with the idea that the last shot is going to have Jacob and Esau on the beach, with the following:

"You were right, Jacob. Here you go....one dollar."
"Thank you."
"No, thank YOU, Jacob."

Jordy, that would make you love the show, right?

[Hawkboy]

Someone came up with the idea that the last shot is going to have Jacob and Esau on the beach, with the following:

"You were right, Jacob. Here you go....one dollar."
"Thank you."
"No, thank YOU, Jacob."

Jordy, that would make you love the show, right?

"Looking good, Jack!"

"Feeling good, Locke!"

Now there's an ending.

[Jew Askew]

ok. Mediocre at best but could set up an interesting last season.

I too think that Jacob and "Esau" are engaged in a thousands year wager, as to which wins out, good or evil. Each time a new group of people get marooned, Jacob and Esau, through their powers and respective followers (becasue at this point Esau HAS to have something to do with Dharma, if not being Dharma himself) I think they compete to save or scorn, respectively..

Look, Lost isn't as bad as heroes on co-opting geek culture into scripts, but this has been done oh so many times. For a great example, check out Gilliams Parnassius when it drops.

Is it unfortunate that the focal point of the show jsut became two characers we've only just met, and yet, I'm way tired of the o.g losties, with the exception of Locke. I know this is silly, and  obviously dramatic, but I really wouldnt mind a jack/hurley/kate/sawyer/etc Less- final season.  Thank dog that Miles , Ben , Richard  and Frank are on the show, or I may have gotten extremely tired of the oceanic six, moreso then i already am.

[ExpendablesFan]

Someone came up with the idea that the last shot is going to have Jacob and Esau on the beach, with the following:

"You were right, Jacob. Here you go....one dollar."
"Thank you."
"No, thank YOU, Jacob."

Jordy, that would make you love the show, right?

Of course.

After sleeping on it and forgetting the goofy Juliette stuff with her flip flopping motivations within an hour just so things could move forward, I'm not as annoyed with the Jacob stuff. Locke not being Locke anymore really bothers me but I have a feeling they will come up with something to address that before it ends. If they don't Locke is truly the most shit on character in the history of television. Nothing good ever happens to him. He's the only character other than Ben I actually like.

Also Jeff Fahey should say "Fantastic" before every commercial break.

[Keith]

Locke not being Locke made so incredibly sad. I really thought he had found his purpose, and it turns out his purpose was to be a patsy yet one more time. 

[Wolfe]

After sleeping on it and forgetting the goofy Juliette stuff with her flip flopping motivations within an hour just so things could move forward

Juliet's flip-flopping was part of the big problem I had with the finale before I saw the segment I missed and the Locke thing blew all other problems out of the water. She suddenly decides she wants to blow up the island because of how Sawyer looked at Kate? And Jack wants to blow it up because Kate's not into him anymore? One problem Lindelof and Cuse have had since the beginning of the show is that they write these romantic subplots like their brains never matured past sophomore year of high school. These characters are supposed to be adults, but they're always written like they're mopey, overdramatic teenagers in the love-story segments. I liked the Sawyer/Juliet thing this year because it was the first time they seemed to depict an actual adult relationship on the show, but then they go and F that up as well.

[nate.3.0]

I want to know how Desmond will play into all of this.

[Steve B]

Wolfe, you forgot about the rack thatJack wanted to blow up the island because Kate didn't like him.

Maybe it's just me but if I did want to blow up the island to set time "right" it would be to save the hundred of so people on flight 805.  But I guess that would be negated by the fact that the bomb would probably kill more people then that.

[nate.3.0]

But I guess that would be negated by the fact that the bomb would probably kill more people then that.

No, because if the bomb theory works and flight 815 lands in LA, then they don't go back in the past and kill a SHIT TON of people with reckless abandon. 

Which is a paradox.  Which is why I still stand by "whatever happened, happened."