Donnacha
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« Reply #420 on: July 29, 2011, 04:09:15 PM » |
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There is one shot, and one shot only, when the shield ricochets right at the screen that looks great in 3D. Otherwise it's just for the illusion of depth. See it in 2D.
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sean
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« Reply #421 on: July 31, 2011, 04:01:19 PM » |
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I'm pretty sure there were shots spread all throughout that weren't even in 3-D at all.
I kinda loved it. I would agree that Red Skull wasn't all that good but, in thinking about it, I honestly can't think of a single Marvel movie with a good villain that wasn't Ian McKellan. At least Red Skull looked cool. (When he pulled off his face, the teenage girl next to me screamed.) I think it's a better movie than 'Iron Man', though Evans isn't quite as good as Downey (how could he be?).
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« Reply #422 on: July 31, 2011, 04:03:39 PM » |
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I think you guys fell asleep and dreamed you were watching a movie where things happened.
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sean
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« Reply #423 on: July 31, 2011, 04:22:01 PM » |
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Nah, that chase through Brooklyn was pretty much a perfect comic book action scene.
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« Reply #424 on: July 31, 2011, 04:27:12 PM » |
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It looked like a cut scene from a Sega Saturn game.
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« Reply #425 on: July 31, 2011, 04:29:29 PM » |
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Its hilarious how much you truly hate CAPTAIN AMERICA  I know what your Secret Santa can get you this year! |
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sean
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« Reply #426 on: July 31, 2011, 04:44:21 PM » |
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It looked like a cut scene from a Sega Saturn game.
I never played Sega Saturn, but it sure looked less like a cut scene from a video game than every action scene in 'Iron Man', 'Thor', or 'X-Men First Class'. The train scene, that was pretty video gamey, though. |
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« Reply #427 on: July 31, 2011, 04:49:02 PM » |
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It's not so much that I hated it. It's that other people like it way too much. Although it was bad.
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« Reply #428 on: July 31, 2011, 04:49:36 PM » |
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I think I'm finally gonna see it tomorrow. BY MYSELF, sons of crumbs.
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sean
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« Reply #429 on: July 31, 2011, 04:56:36 PM » |
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That's just crazy talk. There is never a scene in the entire movie where the lead character is as pixellated as most scenes in either Iron Man. I can't remember any part of either Iron Man movie where he looked like he was physically present at all.
The problem with CGI is more that everybody knows how much CGI is going on these days, so when you aren't enjoying a movie, it becomes easy to poke holes in. Which is exactly the same as all special effects ever. If you like 'Star Trek', the cheesy costumes and make-up are fun at best and forgivable at worst, but if you don't, it's an easy thing to say "That doesn't look realistic!" Stop-motion never approached "real" looking, but 'The Valley of Gwanji' is still a load of fun.
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« Reply #430 on: July 31, 2011, 05:12:30 PM » |
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Iron Man's CGI and green screen was great. Captain America looked like it was shot in someone's basement.
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sean
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« Reply #431 on: July 31, 2011, 05:16:04 PM » |
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The CGI in 'Iron Man' frequently looked like those '90's cartoons where they would cut away to the same CGI sequence in every episode. "The CGI looked fake" is like saying "The sky looked blue".
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« Reply #432 on: July 31, 2011, 05:23:19 PM » |
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Note to Tom: Tommy Lee Jones's nose really is a sight to see in 3-D.
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« Reply #433 on: July 31, 2011, 05:29:33 PM » |
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The CGI in 'Iron Man' frequently looked like those '90's cartoons where they would cut away to the same CGI sequence in every episode. "The CGI looked fake" is like saying "The sky looked blue".
There is such a thing as good cgi and bad cgi. Captain America was filled head to toe with bad, Iron Man wasn't. |
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sean
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« Reply #434 on: July 31, 2011, 05:45:48 PM » |
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It's great that you feel like your opinion is a fact, but the problem is that there's no objectivity to what is "good" and "bad". I say this because you can see it across the board with the responses to literally every action movie of the last ten years; the people who hate it always say "The CGI looked fake" and the people who like it think the CGI looks fine. The big thing in Cap's favor was that the CGI never took front and center for the story itself, which usually winds up being the best way to use any special effects. (Just look at 'Attack the Block'; everybody agrees that the effects look completely fake, and nobody cares because they enjoy the movie too much.)
I would also say that 3-D is always to the detriment of CGI, because CGI has never been able to achieve any sort of depth to their images [this was the big failing of the CGI in 'King Kong'; Kong looked great, unless he had to interact with actual objects that existed in three dimensions], and 3-D emphasizes this. But 3-D helps green screen, because it makes everything that wasn't greenscreened look like it was, to match the rest of it.
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