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« Reply #45 on: September 08, 2008, 04:56:26 PM » |
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There was also OSMOSIS JONES.
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« Reply #46 on: September 08, 2008, 05:01:07 PM » |
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Steve Zissou isn't in line with the likes of Peter Venkman, Phil Connors or Frank Cross one bit. Those characters are classic Murray - impish, sarcastic and fun. I miss the days when Murray played characters who didn't perpetually seem like they were about to throw themselves off a bridge. I'm not sure Phil Connors is the best example; I feel like he's the bridge between old-Murray and new-Murray (and I'm not just saying that because I'm fairly certain that he actually does throw himself off a bridge at one point [well, drive off]). I thought he was a reasonable facsimile of old Murray in 'Charlie's Angels'.
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« Reply #47 on: September 08, 2008, 05:14:26 PM » |
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Everyone's forgetting GARFIELD.
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« Reply #48 on: September 08, 2008, 05:17:09 PM » |
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I dunno. Eccentricity and humor are present in LIFE AQUATIC, sure, but I'm talking specifically about the old Murray persona, and I think that's completely absent from that character. Steve Zissou isn't in line with the likes of Peter Venkman, Phil Connors or Frank Cross one bit. Those characters are classic Murray - impish, sarcastic and fun. I miss the days when Murray played characters who didn't perpetually seem like they were about to throw themselves off a bridge. I don't know, I think maybe a rewatch of the film is order... not in the least bit because somehow the film does get better every time you watched it. The first time I saw it, I actually shut it off and went online for a little bit before going back to it. The second time, I liked it a bit, and by the third I was convinced it was Anderson's best movie, even if it's not my favorite.
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« Reply #49 on: September 08, 2008, 05:22:11 PM » |
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I think my hatred of that movie was doomed from the start--my frozen heart was already starting to melt just because the ship set was a Jerry Lewis' "The Ladies Man" style cutaway.
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« Reply #50 on: September 08, 2008, 05:36:03 PM » |
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I'm not sure Phil Connors is the best example; I feel like he's the bridge between old-Murray and new-Murray (and I'm not just saying that because I'm fairly certain that he actually does throw himself off a bridge at one point [well, drive off]). That's a really good point. But when Connors is "Old Murray" (which is more than half of the movie, and doesn't entirely dissipate even when he becomes New Murray), he's the quintessential Old Murray. I thought he was a reasonable facsimile of old Murray in 'Charlie's Angels'. I thought he was pretty toothless in that. And then there's his GET SMART cameo, which was just strange. B. Wolfe
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« Reply #51 on: September 08, 2008, 05:41:48 PM » |
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I don't know, I think maybe a rewatch of the film is order... not in the least bit because somehow the film does get better every time you watched it.
The first time I saw it, I actually shut it off and went online for a little bit before going back to it. The second time, I liked it a bit, and by the third I was convinced it was Anderson's best movie, even if it's not my favorite. I've seen it at least three times and I'm still not wild about it. In fact, my appreciation of it depreciated over time. I certainly don't hate it, but it's my least favorite Anderson movie. Actually, it's probably tied with BOTTLE ROCKET for the bottom spot. B. Wolfe
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« Reply #52 on: September 08, 2008, 06:50:12 PM » |
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I thought he was a reasonable facsimile of old Murray in 'Charlie's Angels'. I thought he was pretty toothless in that. You have to take a step back and watch the way he shows disdain towards the movie itself, just like in the old days.
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« Reply #54 on: September 09, 2008, 03:20:40 PM » |
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That is a cool shirt.
Also, Nate. I've been meaning to ask you...how do you feel about Brett Ratner directing that Miley Cyrus video. You must be in a hurricane of emotion.
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« Reply #55 on: September 09, 2008, 03:44:07 PM » |
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Also, Nate. I've been meaning to ask you...how do you feel about Brett Ratner directing that Miley Cyrus video. You must be in a hurricane of emotion. Internet Friend say what!?
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« Reply #56 on: September 09, 2008, 03:55:25 PM » |
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Also, Nate. I've been meaning to ask you...how do you feel about Brett Ratner directing that Miley Cyrus video. You must be in a hurricane of emotion. Internet Friend say what!? http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Hr0Wv5DJhukI could see the meeting now. "I'm a big fan of Miley. I've got the first episode of HANNAH MONTANA framed on my wall. She's like insanely popular, right? Yes, I'll do this video."
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« Reply #57 on: September 09, 2008, 04:11:22 PM » |
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Everyone's forgetting GARFIELD. Then the therapy's working.
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« Reply #58 on: September 09, 2008, 04:18:11 PM » |
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Also, Nate. I've been meaning to ask you...how do you feel about Brett Ratner directing that Miley Cyrus video. You must be in a hurricane of emotion. Internet Friend say what!? http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Hr0Wv5DJhukI could see the meeting now. "I'm a big fan of Miley. I've got the first episode of HANNAH MONTANA framed on my wall. She's like insanely popular, right? Yes, I'll do this video." I did not know he directed that. Oh man...
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« Reply #59 on: September 09, 2008, 10:53:14 PM » |
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Going way back to my winston thing.. I thought Venkman would sell out at first, as well. Then I thought about it. Though Peter is never vested in the Ghost Hunting aspect of the busters, he LOVES the adoration, the fame, etc. Whereas Winston clearly states in his first scene, and never betrays the sentiment in either movie, that he is SOLEY in it for the money. Sure, he forms a friendship with the guys and becomes one of the team (As long as you don't go by the box/poster art on the first one... As a 7 year old I realized this was racist), but I think that if the Busters had lapsed into obscurity/retirement, the one man to try and make some cash on it would be Mr. Zedimore. Sure, Peter probably has less emotional attachment to the job, but he's got a ton more to Egon and Ray and Winston does.
Though, in my happy little geek mind, Winston and Ray are best friends somewhere today, still busting ghosts while Egon is shut up in some room somewhere ala Oracle monitoring the worlds ectoplasmic activities and inventing badass new busting gear.
Peter is just getting back from Venice with new squeeze Emmanuelle Chriqui.
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