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« Reply #630 on: March 25, 2012, 05:43:04 AM » |
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MICHAEL IMPERIOLI (Christopher Moltisanti): I thought it was a great ending. A lot of people hated it and thought it was a cop-out, but I thought it was the proper way. Knowing David Chase, he never liked to wrap things up neatly. I never expected it to be either a cliffhanger so people would wait for the movie or wait for another season or just some like really final thing. But I think he’s dead, is what I think. David was trying to put us in the place of the last things you see before you die. You remember some little details and something catches your eye and that’s it. You don’t know the aftermath because you’re gone.
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« Reply #631 on: March 29, 2012, 08:49:01 PM » |
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I was watching a rerun of Happy Days tonight and something caught my eye. Ritchie is forced to take Joanie and Spike to a movie. There is a movie within the show that was filmed specifically for this episode. The guy in it is obviously Tony Randall. I believe the woman is Livia Soprano, but I'm not sure. Check it out and let me know what you think. I can find no reference to it online. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqaeH4B0YuY&feature=player_detailpage#t=658s |
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Dobbin
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« Reply #634 on: March 29, 2012, 09:31:32 PM » |
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Here's a rabbit hole. I searched "Lou Grant Nancy Marchand" on YouTube. There are whole LOU GRANT episodes on YouTube. In Spanish. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WROUP5PfyToThe best is when you hear an accented "LOU G(rollingRR)ANT!" in the title sequence. |
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« Reply #635 on: March 29, 2012, 09:31:45 PM » |
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MICHAEL IMPERIOLI (Christopher Moltisanti): I thought it was a great ending. A lot of people hated it and thought it was a cop-out, but I thought it was the proper way. Knowing David Chase, he never liked to wrap things up neatly. I never expected it to be either a cliffhanger so people would wait for the movie or wait for another season or just some like really final thing. But I think he’s dead, is what I think. David was trying to put us in the place of the last things you see before you die. You remember some little details and something catches your eye and that’s it. You don’t know the aftermath because you’re gone.
You left off Steven Van Zandt's quote, which I thought was equally persuasive. I'm paraphrasing, but I believe it was, "You know what happened after? The cameras stopped filming and everyone went home. It's a TV show." |
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« Reply #637 on: March 29, 2012, 09:46:48 PM » |
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You left off Steven Van Zandt's quote, which I thought was equally persuasive. I'm paraphrasing, but I believe it was, "You know what happened after? The cameras stopped filming and everyone went home. It's a TV show."
Well that's one way to look at it. |
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« Reply #638 on: March 30, 2012, 05:21:23 AM » |
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It's a TV show."
As Peter Sellers would say, "Not anymore." |
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« Reply #640 on: May 23, 2012, 03:28:46 PM » |
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One of the main themes of the show was the ongoing problems that the main character, Tony Soprano, had with panic attacks.... .
...Then, right when the payoff is about to happen, the TV goes black. Everyone thought they'd missed it because they lost their cable. All viewers had a panic attack. Thus, we felt what Tony felt. OMG I love this interpretation. |
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« Reply #641 on: May 23, 2012, 03:55:42 PM » |
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I definitely think part of the point of the final scene was to ramp up the tension without ever really giving you anything to be overly tense about, in order to put you in Tony's mindset. Outside of whether you think he died or not, I think that's definitely at least part of the pacing and editing of that scene.
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« Reply #642 on: May 23, 2012, 06:28:10 PM » |
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This interpretation ignores the fact that Tony IS NOT TENSE. We, the audience are, but he's totally oblivious; he's gone dead inside over the course of the past bunch of episodes and chosen to embrace the fact that he's essentially an amoral monster and he's OK with it. His panic attacks are done, he doesn't need therapy.
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« Reply #643 on: May 23, 2012, 06:36:52 PM » |
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I don't think they're saying we feel what he's feeling in that moment. It means that his panic attacks were such a huge issue, and now we truly understand.
That's how I interpreted it.
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« Reply #644 on: May 23, 2012, 09:03:39 PM » |
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This interpretation ignores the fact that Tony IS NOT TENSE. We, the audience are, but he's totally oblivious; he's gone dead inside over the course of the past bunch of episodes and chosen to embrace the fact that he's essentially an amoral monster and he's OK with it. His panic attacks are done, he doesn't need therapy.
Agreed with this, but I like that disconnect. The entire show has been about Tony consciously walling him off from all of the evils around him and ignoring the evils that he himself created, so it's cool that the final scene has the audience feeling this unbelievable tension while he's completely oblivious, or like you said he's walled himself off from humanity so much that he doesn't feel anything. I think I still like the Six Feet Under finale better, but I've definitely not talked about or thought about that one nearly as much as I've done with this one. |
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