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« Reply #345 on: November 10, 2011, 08:18:49 PM » |
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The most casually upsetting one to me is the Crocodile Dundee bit.
Why is that upsetting? Didn't Dundee just toss it out because he thought the guy had a cold? |
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Rev. Danny
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« Reply #346 on: November 10, 2011, 09:07:00 PM » |
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Why is that upsetting? Didn't Dundee just toss it out because he thought the guy had a cold?
I think he mixed it into a bowl of hot water and put a towel over the guy's head so he could breathe in the vapors. |
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Dobbin
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« Reply #347 on: November 10, 2011, 09:07:36 PM » |
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No, no, Linda Koslowski's reaction to it. Like, she was totally fine with some guy doing cocaine at this party of professional people and she was just all, "Oh, Mick! That was a few hundred dollars worth of cocaine! You silly!"
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« Reply #348 on: November 10, 2011, 09:15:43 PM » |
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Any modern representation of cocaine use I've seen (including the references made in this thread, like Horrible Bosses and Harold & Kumar) have all been Fart-with-a-beard (or Fart-with-a-beard-poser) douchebags. Like, only Fart-with-a-beard assholes, or assholes who want to act Fart-with-a-beard, do coke. Yeah, some...other people...end up on coke in HK3 but, while fodder for laughs, it wasn't a "good" thing by any stretch.
But then, what do I know? I thought NPH was hilarious in HK3. Acronyms!
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Dobbin
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« Reply #349 on: November 10, 2011, 09:44:09 PM » |
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HOT TUB TIME MACHINE and GREENBERG come to mind immediately, but there have been a lot more as-a-cute-punchline moments in TV shows or stuff that I've seen recently-ish as to where I felt like it was an actual trend.
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« Reply #350 on: November 10, 2011, 09:47:06 PM » |
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Any modern representation of cocaine use I've seen (including the references made in this thread, like Horrible Bosses and Harold & Kumar) have all been Fart-with-a-beard (or Fart-with-a-beard-poser) douchebags. Like, only Fart-with-a-beard assholes, or assholes who want to act Fart-with-a-beard, do coke. Yeah, some...other people...end up on coke in HK3 but, while fodder for laughs, it wasn't a "good" thing by any stretch.
But then, what do I know? I thought NPH was hilarious in HK3. Acronyms!
In H&K they showed attractive "hip" young people doing it. And the baby wound up on it and it was played for total laughs with her crawling around on the walls and whatnot. I thought NPH was funny too, but they should have made him at least 30% less rapey. |
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Dobbin
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« Reply #351 on: November 10, 2011, 10:09:29 PM » |
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There have also been a lot of "baby in dangerous and or negligent conditions" played for no-consequence laughs, too. I think it is that there's a lot of young, just-out-of-college writers for whom babies are just concepts.
I've always been touchy about this, though, so I'm not a good barometer. I remember almost getting into a fight at PET SEMATARY when a bunch of dudes near me and my friends laughed like hyenas at the truck-hit.
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« Reply #352 on: November 10, 2011, 10:10:17 PM » |
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Agreed. "Debbie, you're a hooker! I don't believe it!"
"I just bet my balls... and shook on it" |
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« Reply #353 on: November 10, 2011, 10:17:44 PM » |
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In H&K they showed attractive "hip" young people doing it. And the baby wound up on it and it was played for total laughs with her crawling around on the walls and whatnot. They weren't just "young people," they were kids. And to me, they were only "hip" the way Ed Hardy is "hip." They were obnoxious, entitled, spoiled Fart-with-a-beard shits doing crazy "what Fart-with-a-beard people do in the movies" things because they can get away with it. The baby being on it was played for total laughs (I said as much without "spoiling" anything) but it was so absurd as to defray the seriousness of a baby on all those drugs--and there was a clear escalation, from pot to coke to ecstasy (I guess there's room for debate as to which is actually worse, coke or ecstasy) that added to the absurdity. In essence, the baby was a cartoon character. I haven't seen Greenberg, but Hot Tub Time Machine was supposed to be a marriage of modern R-rated comedy and old-school 80s R-rated comedy. Of course there'd be blow. I dunno, I'm just not sure I see this direct trend of "doing blow is awesome and totally casual." To me, all the cokeheads I've seen recently are descendents of Ellis from Die Hard: complete douches, and the coke is tied directly to that douchiness. |
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« Reply #354 on: November 10, 2011, 10:21:01 PM » |
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GREENBERG spoilers:
That one doesn't really count, it's not played for laughs or anything other than a realistic portrayal of a neurotic ex-drug addict doing a couple lines at a party and then stressing about it afterwards.
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« Reply #355 on: November 10, 2011, 10:31:01 PM » |
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But with HTTM, it was like people who never saw the actual 80s (or actual 80s romp movies, for that matter) wrote the movie based off of a kind of VH1 I LOVE THE 80s view of things. Which was weird, since Cusak *was* the 80s-romp-comedy wunderkind. Like, it reminded me of when my teen-to-20s cousins have "80s theme!" parties and post all these pictures to facebook that in no way capture what someone actually dressed like; that was how the cocaine in that movie played to me. It was an ugly thing, that movie.
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« Reply #356 on: November 10, 2011, 10:31:40 PM » |
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They weren't just "young people," they were kids. And to me, they were only "hip" the way Ed Hardy is "hip." They were obnoxious, entitled, spoiled Fart-with-a-beard shits doing crazy "what Fart-with-a-beard people do in the movies" things because they can get away with it.
The baby being on it was played for total laughs (I said as much without "spoiling" anything) but it was so absurd as to defray the seriousness of a baby on all those drugs--and there was a clear escalation, from pot to coke to ecstasy (I guess there's room for debate as to which is actually worse, coke or ecstasy) that added to the absurdity. In essence, the baby was a cartoon character.
I haven't seen Greenberg, but Hot Tub Time Machine was supposed to be a marriage of modern R-rated comedy and old-school 80s R-rated comedy. Of course there'd be blow.
I dunno, I'm just not sure I see this direct trend of "doing blow is awesome and totally casual." To me, all the cokeheads I've seen recently are descendents of Ellis from Die Hard: complete douches, and the coke is tied directly to that douchiness.
I think my original point was valid. They treated coke more like the way pot traditionally gets treated in comedies. They would never play, say, heroin for laughs like that. |
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« Reply #357 on: November 10, 2011, 10:36:09 PM » |
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Every time I think this thread can't get weirder....
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« Reply #358 on: November 10, 2011, 10:39:40 PM » |
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Every time I think this thread can't get weirder....
Dude, it's a thread about Brett Ratner. It can go anywhere. |
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« Reply #359 on: November 10, 2011, 10:54:07 PM » |
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Dude, it's a thread about Brett Ratner. It can go anywhere.
Ratner was fired from the Oscars for making crude, mean spirited and un-PC comments. Including things he said about Lindsay Lohan, who was underage at the time of his dating her. I don't see how it's weird to discuss any of this stuff in relation to that. |
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